Two Serpents Rise by Max Gladstone, readalong week 3
26 April 2015
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Today is our third week of the readalong of Max Gladstone’s Two Serpents Rise this week hosted by the lovely Lauren at Violin in a Void – so be sure and stop over there too. This week the action has certainly increased and I’m keen to get to the discussion so will jump in without further ado. If you haven’t read this series please beware of spoilers below and if you have read it then please join the discussion!
1. After the fight at Seven Leaf, Caleb apologises to Mal and they finally start dating. What do you think of the way their relationship has developed? Do you agree with Mal that Caleb chased her because he needs gods in his life?
It’s a strange relationship and I haven’t entirely trusted Mal for a while now. The last few chapters have done nothing to change my feelings in that respect although oddly I don’t find myself disliking her. Conversely, I didn’t think Caleb had anything to apologise for but it seemed that he wanted the relationship to continue more than Mal did and so did the chasing and apologising – it’s becoming something of a pattern really in terms of Caleb wanting this relationship the most. Mal is a conundrum – I don’t really know what her feelings are about Caleb but I think their whole relationship is based on misunderstanding. I don’t think they really know each other at all and what they have together is very tenuous to say the least and based on what they both want to believe rather than what is actually the truth. It’s going to be interesting to see if they have something stronger or not.
2. This section has been quite philosophical. Where do you stand on the debate – gods, no gods, or some kind of compromise? Do you agree with Caleb’s idea of sacrificing your morality because the religious alternative is even worse?
It’s an intriguing debate and I’m not totally sure what the right way forward is really. It seems to me that both ways are flawed at the moment – either an all powerful and greedy God or a substitute system that still requires very dubious moral choices. It would be better if a compromise could be reached but I’m not really sure that’s possible. It’s difficult to comment really because in our world people either believe in Gods or not – in Gladstone’s worlds it’s a different thing altogether because clearly there is very real evidence that they do exist – it’s more about what you’re prepared to put up with to live the life you want.
3. Gladstone is still unveiling amazing things in his world, like a sport based on myth, the eclipse festival, walking on water, and a half-dead sea god whose heart is being used for desalination. What interested you the most?
The walking on water idea brought me to a standstill to be honest – I had to stop and go back a little bit, like, ‘did I really just read that’. Such an unusual idea that put me in mind of the story of Jesus walking on water! And the whole idea of using a half dead God to clean up sea water for drinking purposes – it’s a bit horrible really isn’t it? Like you’ll just take the bits and pieces of whatever happens to suit your needs the most. So, you’re not having a God based system because the costs are still too high for you but you’ll just keep certain parts – I’m not entirely happy with that idea – ties in with question 2 of course. In terms of jaw dropping – what about the thing with the shark – OMG – not sure I’d want a shark to try and eat me during, ahem, you know! Talk about coitus interruptus.
4. Mal has noted twice that they don’t have much time, and she apologises to Caleb while he sleeps on the ocean. Then Alaxic kills himself and tries to kill Temoc – the last two priests of the old Quechal. What do you think is going on here? Any speculation about how it might turn out?
Well, it just makes me think that Mal and Alaxic are working together – which okay I’m just being daft as clearly she was revealed as working with Alaxic at the contract signing – I think that was the first major indication for me that Mal wasn’t all she seemed though. I don’t understand though why Alaxic would try to kill them both. Maybe he thinks that Temoc will be able to thwart whatever plans are afoot.
I can’t wait to see how this ends and looking forward to all the discussion this week.
Three Parts Dead by Max Gladstone, Final Instalment
23 March 2015
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Wow, I don’t know how it came around so fast as I feel like time has simply flown by, but here we are at the end of our readalong for Max Gladstone’s excellent Three Parts Dead.
This week the lovely Lisa at Over the Effing Rainbow is our wonderful host so please stop by and check out all the other participants answers.
If you’re reading this now, then yes, obviously, you’re too late to join the readalong but I strongly recommend you give this book a shot – it’s very entertaining and I found the setting and concept quite unique.
To the Q&A with the customary reminder that if you haven’t read this already you might want to look away about now:
1. So we finally got all the facts behind whodunit – and how, and why… What did you think of the epic(sized) reveal scene?
I enjoyed the final reveal – mostly because I hadn’t managed to second guess everything that was going on. I was just enjoying reading and finding out the answers. I’d put together that the Professor was basically not a nice guy and I kind of suspected he was trying to use God’s powers – however, I hadn’t realised the full extent of his machinations. I also suspected that the Stone Men were being used as a set up and I had inner nigglings about the survival of their God but not to the extent that was finally revealed – and it was like an epic romance wasn’t it! Well, not a romance, but you know what I mean! And I never, for one second, realised what was going on with Abelard and his cigarettes – if that’s not the most unusual hiding place ever then I don’t know what is!
Surprise! We found Kos. You’ll never believe where he was… Or did you?
Haha, no I didn’t guess – see above. So unusual. I didn’t see that coming at all.
Elayne Kevarian proved to be even more devious than we suspected. What do you think of this Craftswoman now that the dust is settling? Sympathy for Denovo, or victorious fist-pump?
No sympathy for Denovo at all. Not even a speck. He was so horrible that I can’t even go there and in fact I think the ending he received was almost too good for him. And Kevarian – she was something of a cool character. That whole scene where she reduced the shadow monster to a pill sized blot and then swallowed it – I was like ‘what’? What just happened. That was such a great idea for the finale.
I did a little checking and the second book in this series seems to feature a whole new cast, though it’s still set in the same world. Do you think this one wrapped things up for Tara, Abelard and company well enough, or are you wishing for more? For that matter, will you read on?
Yeah, I’d also heard that the other books are more like companion novels not follow ons. I do feel like this wrapped things up fairly cleanly for the characters plus- even though the future books are not the same characters there’s always the possibility of hearing news in a second hand fashion??
I really enjoyed this – it was a very unusual concept and I will definitely continue with the series.
Thanks everyone for taking part – as usual this big jumble of ideas and questions has been really entertaining and thought provoking which is why I love readalongs – so many ideas chucked into the mix that make your brain go off on tangents that it probably wouldn’t have done so by itself – well, mine wouldn’t have anyway.
Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson – readalong week 3
16 April 2014
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Today is week three of a 10 week readalong of Brandon Sanderson’s Words of Radiance arranged jointly by Dab of Darkness and Stainless Steel Droppings. If you’re not joining in already you might want to think about it – it’s not too late!! Alternatively, if you’ve already read this and just want to jump in with comments then that would be cool. (The schedule is here). This week’s questions have come to us from Susan at Dab of Darkness who you need to pay a visit to – mainly because she always has such wonderful insights! So, without further ado: (Oh, fyi – spoilers below, they’re like spren, if you read this they will pop up all over the place – mischievousspren!)
1) We have a new character on the scene: Zahel, a swordmaster. What do you think of his interest in Kaladin?
It’s very curious isn’t it. I like Zahel. Maybe that’s because he wants to train Kaladin – and clearly he had a point as Kaladin very successfully displayed! Although, part of me wonders if part of Kaladin’s success is his improvisation. Anyway, I have mixed feelings – I like Zahel – but in a way it makes me sceptical because Kaladin’s first thoughts were to mistrust. Okay, sitting on the fence here.
2) We learned a bit more about Shallan’s past. What do you think her brother Heralan was doing all those years ago, coming and going as he did, and where did his Shardblade come from?
Again, this was very interesting. Last week I was convinced Shallan hadn’t killed her mum, this week I’m mistrusting that initial thought. I thought she’d probably witnessed it. But, this week, she broke her silence to protect her dad which I wonder if she would have done that if he’d killed her mother? Surely she’d hate him as much as her brother seems to do. Perhaps he was protecting some sort of secret for Shallan. I have no idea why Heralan has a Shardblade – I only hope he knows how to use it!
3) What do you think of Shallan’s recent actions with the caravans? How about her growing friendship with Tyn? And her first interaction with Kaladin?
I was really impressed with her this week. She took control of her situation and I think it was a learning curve for her. It was interesting to here Pattern say that there are different truths. Not sure what to make of Tyn yet, I like her to be honest. Yes, she’s a bit of a con artist, but, I think the two could get along – she’s also free thinking – I loved her comment about she’d eat what she wants – damn straight! She thinks she has Shallan sussed out and so she’s opening up in a way that she wouldn’t otherwise do. The first meeting between Kaladin and Shallan was so funny! It’s now got me thinking that those two would get on famously – I don’t think Adolin would take that well.
4) Kaladin took Syl’s advice and confided in Dalinar concerning Amaram. What do you think Dalinar will do with this information?
Well, it will be good to watch this. Knowing what he now knows, if I was Dalinar I would sit back in the shadows and watch how Amaram reacts to Kaladin when he believes nobody is watching him. It seems to me that Amaram will either confront Kaladin or try to expose him in some bad way and Dalinar needs to keep a low profile and observe. Clearly he can’t just out and out believe one man’s word against the other although I thought he took the revelation well – he didn’t blow up at Kaladin and become all indignant or self righteous so it feels like he’s giving Kaladin the benefit of the doubt.
5) There has been yet another attempt on the King’s life. Do you think this is another faked attempt (as Ehlokar did with the saddle girth in Book 1)? If not, who do you think is the most likely culprit?
I can’t imagine Ehlokar making another fake attempt. I’m a bit baffled to be honest. Plus it’s somebody with a Shardblade – although clearly people let others use their blades so that’s not a definite pointer. Because I dislike Sadeas so much I can’t help wondering if he’s behind it somehow – maybe pouring poison into somebody’s ear and allowing them the use of his blade. Basically I don’t know! And, the attempts seem too easy – like a distraction.
6) Gaz has returned to the story, after having mysteriously dropped out in Book 1. What do you think he isn’t telling Shallan? How do you think the men of Bridge 4 will react upon seeing him again?
I don’t think the bridgemen will throw Gaz a welcome party, he was hardly nice to them after all! Obviously he had his gambling debts but it seems to me he must have done something worse somehow. It was curious to watch his reaction to Shallan, in one way he was admitting things almost in a resigned what difference will it make kind of way and then he just closed up.
7) Eshonai and Adolin had a brief chat on the Shattered Plains. What will come of it? How will the Parshendi ever get a messenger to Dalinar?
I think it can be done and I really think Dalinar will want to have this conversation. How will they get a message through? Could one of the Parshendi who doesn’t have the armour perhaps sneak in as a parshman. Or, maybe, they could use a spren? ahhh – grasping at straws.
If you want more debate then here’s where to look:
Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson, readalong week 3,
15 January 2014
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Banner courtesy of Anya at On Starships And Dragonwings!
This week I will be hosting the questions for our readalong of Brandon Sanderson’s Way of Kings. It’s amazing how this story just grabs you sucks you in – maybe even things you don’t usually particularly enjoy in a story – such as the fight scenes or the internal court politics – Sanderson has a way of just pulling you into all parts of the story even if you didn’t think you’d be inclined! This week we cover Chapters 14 – 19 – the schedule is here. Remember – it’s never too late to join the party, everyone welcome and it’s definitely not too late to catch up. And, of course, obligatory spoiler alert!! From here on in spoilers will run amok….
1. After the Chasmfiend attack there were a number of altercations. Two of these that particularly drew my interest were: the little scene where Wit ridiculed Sadeas – which seems to be a dangerous thing to do given that this could result in a dual or assassination – any ideas about why Wit seems to enjoy provoking Sadeas so much and: during the discussion with the King, Dalinar and Adolin – it seemed that the King became fleetingly suspicious – and later in the story the same look of suspicion crossed his features again during conversation with Dalinar. What do you think is going on in the King’s head in relation to Dalinar?
Two things – either Wit suspects Sadeas of being false to the King and is so provoking him deliberately, or, Wit himself is the false one and perhaps he hopes to make Sadeas take drastic action which could result in him being banished by the King. It’s difficult to imagine that Wit would be going for the second option – given it means he would be dead in the process! I wonder if Wit thinks Sadeas is untrustworthy. In terms of Elhokar I’m not quite sure what this look of suspicion or doubt is when he’s in discussion with Dalinar. Personally I would say that Kaladin is the King’s most loyal advisor but maybe Elhokar thinks the fits Dalinar is experiencing are something else?? Maybe he thinks he’s being controlled by them and will advise him poorly or have ulterior motives?
2. We seemed to get a little more insight about why the bridgemen are not given shields of protection – what did you think of the reasoning behind this and what do you make of Sadeas – is he trustworthy or not?
Well, as horrible as it sounds I suppose there was a grim sort of truth in what Sadeas said – in leaving the bridgemen exposed the enemy was more interested in firing upon them than the army! It’s still a pretty horrendous thing to do – maybe he could have used his army to distract the enemy in other ways ! I’m not sure what to make of Sadeas – the above callous logic definitely shows he can be a cold and ruthless character. I can’t help having a little bit of a niggle in the back of my mind that when Szeth assassinated the old King – Sadeas was conveniently out of the way (acting as a decoy). Okay, this may be unreasonable and Dalinar seems to trust him but the way he treats people generally makes me think he will take any measure to be successful regardless of the cost to human life and so I’m inclined to be suspicious of him.
3. Elhokar has suspicions about attempts on his life – is he paranoid or not and, if not, who do you suspect might be responsible?
Well, it could be a coincidence but it did seem as though somebody had tampered with Elhokar’s saddle – okay, the damage could have been caused by a buckle but it seems a bit unfortunate that this should happen when the King just happens to be taking part in a hunt – a hunt which everyone knows he will want to lead. As to who could be a suspect – well, I do seem to be banging on the Sadeas drum but I suppose seeing as I’ve already said he seems to be a bit dodgy I’ll stick with that. Plus, he has the King’s ear so perhaps he’s the one making Elhokar doubt Dalinar – then again I could be VERY wide of the mark!
4. Kaladin is a very intriguing character, what did you make of the latest bridge scene where he put himself at the front of the bridge and then his actions following that? Did you think it revealed anything more about him?
I wasn’t surprised by his actions, in fact I expected him to behave this way. He’s trying to gain the trust of the crew after all and also I don’t see him as the sort of character to skulk at the back, all protected, while others face danger. I thought the fight scene was quite revealing (both fights actually – the one with the young boy in the flashback). There was definitely something odd – it’s as though he’s using magic without even knowing – when he ran at the chasm with the bridge, yelling at the top of his voice at the enemy – they became confused. It was also interesting to note that other members of the crew started to help him of their own free will when he was attempting to heal the injured members. He’s definitely going to have their respect soon, if not already.
5. During Elhokar and Dalinar’s later discussion the king said that Dalinar was becoming more like Gavilar near to his end ‘When he began to act … erratically” It seems like Dalinar is becoming more like his brother. Do you think this is significant??
It made me wonder if Gavilar had also been experiencing the beginnings of hearing voices or having fits in the same way that Dalinar is now doing? And maybe if that’s the case this ‘voice’ is now talking to Dalinar?
6. We finally witness one of Dalinar’s visions. Do you think there is any significance about the visions always taking place during a storm and what were your feelings about this particular vision?
That vision was crazy! Not only is Dalinar having a vision but he’s actively taking part in it and making a difference? How is that even possible? I do think it’s curious that Dalinar’s episodes come during the storm – as though there’s something in the weather that affects him?
I thought it was interesting that we spent some more time looking back at Kaladin’s younger years, particularly his young lady friend – I couldn’t make out if she’d developed a crush on him or vice versa – or both! I definitely think that Kaladin has something different going on when he fights – like he’s tapping into something, plus, what was the significance of the spheres being drained – as though he’s using their energy maybe??
No doubt lots of ridiculous guesses – but at least I’m consistent and I only make such wild suggestions to make everyone else look brilliant!
Looking forward to everyone’s discussions 😀
Other discussion posts are here:
- Dab of Darkness
- Tethyan Books
- Lunar Rainbows
- Musings on Fantasia
- Over the Effing Rainbow
- There Were Books Involved
- Coffee, Cookies and Chili Peppers
- The Caffeinated Life
- On Starships and Dragonwings
- Doing Dewey Decimal
- Book Vulture
- Novel Reflection
– See more at: http://musingsonfantasia.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/free-books-free-books-free-books-way-of.html#sthash.jNNlshe9.dpuf
Republic of Thieves by Scott Lynch, readalong week 3
11 November 2013
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Welcome everyone to the third week of the Republic of Thieves readalong (weeks 1 and 2 here and here!). I hope you all had an excellent weekend filled with fun and Gentlemen Bastards.
This week we read Chapter 6 thru Interlude “Aurin and Amadine”. We finally get an introduction to the theatre troupe that the gang will be working with and in the election competition we see the boys unexpectedly wind up back out at sea! For those not reading along please beware of spoilers below.
- The election competition. Sabetha isn’t wasting any time throwing pranks at Locke and Jean. Mostly it seemed fairly harmless, or at least not overly serious, until they were kidnapped and put onto a ship and taken out to sea. What did you make of Sabetha’s latest plan? And what did you think about the way she executed it? I never saw that coming at all! In fact I was quite staggered. I really hadn’t realised just how seriously this whole election campaign was going to be taken. We started off with a few pranks, spider infestations, minor insults, bit of pick pocketing and it was plain to see that Locke and Jean were playing catch up with Sabetha who seemed to be constantly one step ahead. At first I was really shocked that she’d put them out to sea – and I do mean really shocked! It just never occurred to me that either side would take such measures. I guess all’s fair in love and war after all. And, as to the way she executed her plan – well, at the end of the day we all know that Locke is besotted with Sabetha and we’ve had lots of discussion about whether she manipulates his obsession or not – well this put us all straight. Yes, she’s aware of how much he idolises her and no she’s not afraid to use it! She crooked her finger and he came running and fell hook, line and sinker into her little plan.
- During the escape overboard and Jean’s rather subtle nose dive into the water – I was curious about the lights Locke saw deep in the water when he was performing his rescue – Locke thought they looked different once he was under the waves which I suppose they would but he also had the feeling that he was being watched? Do you think this relates back to the Eldren or some other presence? Firstly, I thought it was great that Locke actually got to do some rescuing as it feels that Jean is usually the one getting Locke out of trouble. I really don’t know what the lights under water signify – that’s why I asked this because I’m hoping that one of you has a theory! Maybe mermaids exist in this world – it does seem as though the lights were at first an attraction but once Locke was in the water he felt like he was being watched by something more sinister. A bit as though the lights are some kind of lure or trap?
- Given that Locke hadn’t seen Sabetha for five years how did you think their first meeting together went (well, it wasn’t strictly speaking their first meeting of course – were you surprised that Jean and Locke hadn’t figured out that the woman pickpocket was Sabetha?) and also what did you make of Jean and Sabetha’s reaction to each other? I think the first meeting they had with Sabetha, even though she was in disguise, showed again how she was ahead of them, it never even occurred to them that it was her! Even with the initialled handkerchief. I thought for the second meeting there was a really big build up, Locke getting ready hours in advance (so he’d have enough time for pacing nervously) and so the initial meet felt a little bit flat almost. I guess I was hoping for more emotion in some way, even if they were both annoyed and shouting at each other. It felt like they were both treading on eggshells a bit although I liked that it gave us a little bit more insight into why Sabetha left. I thought Jean and Sabetha’s reaction was very interesting and even a bit strange. Jean seemed very cool and suspicious of Sabetha and it was Sabetha who instigated the hug. I suppose Jean isn’t the one enamoured with Sabetha after all and maybe he doesn’t like watching Locke constantly suffering over her?
- So, the gang have arrived in Espara and already the plans have gone wrong through no fault of their own! Jail for a year plus lose a hand for slapping a noble?? What do you think of the justice system in Espara and how does this bode for the gang? Losing a hand for hitting someone – bloody hell! I don’t suppose it should come as a surprise that the justice system is biased – it’s probably put in place by the nobility after all! The way the GBs carry on you can’t help thinking they could all end up missing a few body parts! They’re not shy about insulting people after all and we all know they have light fingers – what do you suppose is the penalty for pick pocketing! Lose both hands and have your ears cut off if not worse. It makes you think that they’re going to need to be very careful whilst in Espara not to upset any of the nobility.
- The acting company are finally coming together and we’re watching the gang as they try to read, act and grab the best parts – are you all ‘happy face’ with the whole theatre scenes or, sad face! Also, I can’t help feeling like this whole storyline is a step out of character for the gang. Any ideas of how it will play out?? I love the theatre story. I think it’s genius. It shows us the gang finally getting to put a lot of their training into use. They need to be able to act after all when they start pulling cons. Plus I think the play itself is great. This part of the story is unusual because Chains has sent them to help somebody and until they get a feel for the place they won’t really know how to do that. Of course it all goes wrong from square one with Moncraine being in prison! I liked that they didn’t use this as an opportunity to pack up and go back home but saw it as a challenge and we finally got to see Locke and Sabetha in action together pretending to be nobles in disguise (I love that they’re thieves, pretending to be nobles who are pretending to be actors). I guess this storyline is also going to give us some more of Sabetha and Locke’s background and add to the ‘will they won’t they’ debate.
- We are also being introduced to a number of new characters, particularly Moncraine and Boulidazi. What are your first impressions of these two and the other new characters in the Company and any particular likes or dislikes so far? I can’t say that I like either of the two new characters so far. Although I probably dislike Boulidazi marginally more than Moncraine. I mean Moncraine is obviously a bit of a maniac isn’t he? Why would you punch a noble in the first place (if you know the punishment) but why when he’s offering to help you out. Why wouldn’t a simple ‘no’ suffice? Considering his position he’s not short of arrogance and pig headedness. He’s also not particularly concerned about anyone else but himself. His whole ‘being in prison for a year is the best place to be’ – for him – what about all the other troupe members and the mess it leaves them in. Then Boulidazi – he’s a slippery sort, or so he seems to me. I didn’t like, for example, that he immediately saw himself as a likely suitor for Sabetha and also that he took Locke to one side to ask about her – like she doesn’t have a say in the matter at all!
- The rooftop scene and the apology. How did it all go so wrong? And how will Locke get out of this latest fix with Boulidazi? OMG, how could it go so wrong so quickly! Locke was doing so well, he was finally making a good impression with Sabetha and they were talking at last! I did want to say to him though to ‘shut up’ – he was just so determined to say as much as possible as quickly as possible. It went from punching the air to slumped shoulders in one easy step! To be honest I don’t quite get the whole obsession with the ‘hair’ colour thing. I mean, why is he fixated on Sabetha’s hair colour. Obviously he loves her and so he loves everything about her but I suppose from her point of view you wouldn’t want somebody to be just fixated on something like that would you? Okay, he has this memory of the first time he saw her hair and he romantically seems to link this with his Sabetha ‘lightbulb’ moment, but he still seems to know so little about her or how she feels. I mean, she dyes her hair and never lets her true colour show – has he never thought about that?? Or that maybe there’s a reason behind it so going down the whole ‘the first time I saw your beautiful red hair’ route seemed highly likely to cause problems! You just can’t help feeling sorry for him though. He tries so hard to please her and he’s just so desperate for any scrap she throws his way! As to how he will get out of his latest trouble with Boulidazi, I think that Sabetha will come to his rescue – just like she did when she thought he was being arrested by the yellow jacket!
Quotes this week:
‘Yeah, but if I don’t start my nervous pacing now, I’ll never have it all done in time.’
‘Remember how she joked about twenty armed men in the next room?’ said Jean with a resigned sign. He set down the book he’d been reading. ‘There were twenty armed men in the next room.’ How cute is Jean – sat on his bed reading! *sigh*
‘Do you want to do as you’re told, or do you want to kiss that pavement?’ It turned out he wanted to do as he was told! (Well you would wouldn’t you – kissing pavements – not recommended!)
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