Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson, readalong week 8

537a7-wordsofradgroupread250Storms – this week’s chapters were .. pfft.  I can’t even!  I literally wanted to cry!!!! And, then I had to stop reading which was so difficult to do.

Anyway, this is week 8 of the readalong.  Let’s just be realistic, if you’ve not joined in by now you’re probably not going to!  But, you should still pick this book up because it’s storming brilliant!  This week Susan from Dab of Darkness is hosting.  Feel free to jump on in and make comments if you’ve already read WoR and if you haven’t then beware of spoilers below – because there’s probably an abundance of the little suckers!  Jabberspren – they’re getting into everything:

1) What did you think of Adolin voluntarily being locked up while Kaladin was locked up? Then Adolin’s little reveal of trust later while marching on the plateaus. Do these two have a chance at friendship? 

Yes!!  Well, providing Kaladin makes it back in one piece.  Although, the fact that Kaladin and Shallan seem to be developing their own friendship could be a deterrent. Are we really going to have a love triangle!  I really want Kaladin and Adolin to be friends to be honest but I think that the way Kaladin is now viewing Shallan could be a major problem – and let’s be honest, he did come over all jealous like when Shallan mentioned Adolin.

2) Kaladin turns down the Shards, instead giving them to Moash. How do you see this affecting his friendship with Moash in the future? 

I have a bad feeling about this.  Moash seems to be changing in my view – perhaps I’m just imaging things but he’s already started to distance himself and although he’s got this whole ‘setting up his own affairs’ type of excuse I don’t know that I’m really buying it.  Just because he’s got a shardblade doesn’t mean he has to act so very differently does it.  Plus, there was something about the way he questioned Kaladin that didn’t feel quite right.  Not to mention suggesting that Kaladin be the one to get Elhokar in the right spot for an assassination.  I don’t like it.

3) Amaram tries to discredit and embarrass Dalinar by releasing modified versions of his visions. Do you think Dalinar handled it well? Do you think a religious sect will arise from this? And what did you make of Dalinar’s conversation with Wit? 

I thought Dalinar handled it really well to be honest.  When it all came out I just felt so naffed off with what Dalinar has to put up with – my shoulders slumped at that point to be honest but Dalinar just climbs up on the table, gives his speech and then goes round talking with everyone and smoothing things over (yes, he was exhausted by it but he really turned the situation around)  He’s such a strong character.  It does seem likely that something will come about after this disclosure of Dalinar’s visions.  The conversation with Wit was very interesting and I suppose builds on what some of us have been saying that Wit is trying to help in his own way and lead people on but he clearly said himself that he will behave in a way that is right for himself.  I was intrigued about what he was saying about being ripped to shreds.

4) Kaladin starts noticing some issues with his Stormlight abilities. Then Syl points out that he made promises to both Dalinar and Moash that conflict with each other. How do you see this resolving? Will Syl be OK?

I think that the double promises have started a heap of trouble for Kaladin.  You can’t be making promises that conflict in that way – he’s supposed to be a man of honour after all and Syl is a honorspren so even though she might not be particularly involved on either side of things she is all about a certain way of behaving.  I think that Kaladin has weakened the link – I don’t think it’s totally gone though.  Basically, earlier on in the story, we had this whole sort of description about spren and the fact that humans are what really create them by believing in them.  I suppose that in doing something less honorable the whole trust/belief system is put at risk in terms of Syl – I think that’s what the stormfather meant when he said Kaladin will kill her – if he acts dishonourably then she can’t exist any more?  And Kaladin is starting to doubt that he can always do the right thing – in which case where does that really leave Syl (he needs to clap his hands very quickly and say over and over ‘I do believe in honour’ I do believe in honour!).  I don’t mind admitting that I will be totally devastated if anything happens to Syl.  Plus it makes me wonder about Kaladin – will he always need Syl with him in order to keep his abilities?    In terms of how things will be resolved with Moash I’m not really sure.  Maybe he will do something himself whilst Kaladin is not around and get himself into some sort of trouble?

5) We got to see Shallan on a field trip: moss, bugs, chasm fiend, etc. What do you think of how she handled herself both on the plateau march and later in the chasms? 

I loved watching Shallan through these chapters.  She’s so curious and frankly as a reader her curiosity is very helpful – without it we wouldn’t find out half the things we do – in fact it’s a really clever way of avoiding info dumps.  In the chasms as well – always the scholar first.  Very impressive with her map drawing and really, she’s actually the hero of the situation isn’t she!  It was so good when she was making the apparitions appear to distract the chasmfiend.  So do we think that Kaladin and Shallan will go and retrieve the gem from the chasmfiend.

6) We learn some very interesting bits about Teft’s childhood. What do you think of the punishment meted out to the Envisagers? Too harsh? Correct? Do you think some of the Envisagers survived? 

It really was a crazy punishment wasn’t it!  Like ‘oh, you want to kill yourselves, well we’re not going to let you!  Hell no, in fact we’re going to kill you instead!’  What!!  Not sure at this point what to make of this part of the story and couldn’t really guess if any of the envisagers survived – just clueless at the moment on this one.

7) Shallan and Kaladin learn several things about each other during their time in the chasms. What was the most interesting to you? How do you see their relationship evolving after this? 

I thought this chapter was very revealing from start to finish.  Kaladin has learnt just how deep his prejudices really are and also that they’re not always right.  He’s tarring everyone with the same brush which is very unfair.  I like that he at least can see that Adolin is a good character and also that he’s changed his view of Shallan.  It’s interesting as well that he’s now realised what she really is and yet she doesn’t seem to have pieced this together about him yet.  It was great that they were sharing their stories although they’re both still not comfortable enough to share the full truth.  I just so wish that they could have both found out the real truth about each other’s abilities.  Then the scene with the face in the storm – I just wanted to cry!  But, I don’t believe Syl is really dead.  Maybe I’m just being naive but I really think she’s still alive.  I think Kaladin needs to do the right thing – he also needs to say these words (not sure what they are but maybe this is Syl’s way of pushing him to really discovering who he is?)

So good this week – I really must go and read on before I burst something!

And, thanks again to Susan for taking over the questions for this week. 🙂


6 Responses to “Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson, readalong week 8”

  1. Liesel K. Hill

    I think we’re all on the same page about Moash–worried that the Shardblade/plate might have a negative effect on him. I do think there will be romance in Kaladin and Shallan’s future. Here’s to hoping they can remain friends with Andolin somehow. Like you, I don’t think Syl is permanently gone. I’m worried about her, but I don’t think Sanderson is finished with her yet (at least I hope not)! 😀 My WoR Post

    • lynnsbooks

      I think I will actually cry if anything really bad has happened to Syl! I think Kaladin might as well 😀

  2. TBM

    I didn’t have a warm fuzzy feeling either when Kaladin gave Moash the shards. Still don’t have a warm fuzzy feeling. And no, Syl can’t be dead. Sticking my head in the sand on this one.

    • lynnsbooks

      I know – I really do think Moash may turn bad a little. I wonder if it’s the influence of the Shards – perhaps it exacerbates your character traits somehow. Let’s be ostriches together – I really can’t take it if Syl has gone (and I don’t think Kaladin can either tbh).
      Lynn 😀

  3. nrlymrtl

    I too worry about Moash and his Shards. In one scene, he sort of swears fealty to Kaladin forever and ever, but then we see him spending more time setting up his mansion and less time with the bridgemen. Plus, there is that whole wanting to assassinate the king thing.

    Wit’s little chat with Dalinar was so very interesting. Gives me lots and lots of questions. He obviously doesn’t want to be found by Odium, but I don’t think Dalinar has really pieced the big picture together yet.

    I think you are spot on about Syl, Kaladin, and honor. Perhaps Kaladin needs a picture drawn for him?

    Ooo! I hadn’t thought of them retrieving the gem from the chasmfiend. It is probably really gory work.

    I loved that Kaladin and Shallan got time to get to know each other and start building some trust. But I also worry about some sort of love triangle coming out of it.

    • lynnsbooks

      Seriously, I can’t imagine there being a love triangle but everything seems to point in that direction!
      Lynn 😀

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