Shadow of the Sun by Barbara Friend Ish, readalong week 4

This week is the fourth week of the readalong of Shadow of the Sun being hosted by Dab of Darkness.  If you haven’t already joined in then there’s still time to do so however you might not want to read any further as spoilers will be rife!

1) Ellion and Letitia finally have not 1, not 2, not 3, but four trysts in this section of the book. What insights into the characters did you gain from these assignations?

Well, in one sense it was inevitable and you could see it coming but then in another sense I really hoped I was going to be wrong – not that I’ve got something against people getting jiggy.  But, I’m going to be a total party pooper now and say that I don’t respect either of them at the moment.  They’re in the middle of life and death situations and they both just keep striding off by themselves – like Letitia jumping to shore and flouncing off – which was clearly a ‘chase me’ to Ellion – and worked very well.  And, well what of Iminor.  I don’t know it just doesn’t seem the right way to treat somebody.  If you don’t want to be with somebody then call it quits already, don’t go making poodle eyes at some other guy and then go playing patty cakes in the most flagrant fashion ever.  And what’s up with Iminor anyway – I don’t have much respect for him now either.  Why doesn’t he just tell Letitita to do one – she’s turning him into a muppet – basically how would she feel if he was behaving like this?  Look, I get that the Tanaan are all about openness and enjoying their sexuality but it still seems to me that this is massively taking the piss and it leaves a bit of a bad feeling for me with both of them (although in fairness to Ellion he isn’t otherwise engaged).  Plus, what is with Ellion boasting, inside his own head, about all his conquests and duels, again, it just didn’t show him in a good light. Alright, it’s obvious that they have feelings for each other and it also felt inevitable that they would get together – I just don’t like the way they’re going about it.

2) Letitia’s retinue has diminished even further. How did this affect you as the reader and how do you think it will affect the dynamics of the remaining Tanaan? 

It affected me in the way that I started to wonder why it is her that her life is more important than theirs.  I’m sorry but she comes across as a little spoilt and petulant and her actions seem to constantly put people in danger – and why on earth experienced warriors who know that she is talking nonsense then follow her orders I haven’t the foggiest.  It’s about time that somebody just told her to shut the hell up when it comes to strategy because she knows even less than I do and her foolish behaviour has led to the deaths of some really good characters that I was enjoying reading about.  Frankly, I think I would sooner they still lived and she didn’t (okay, that’s a bit harsh but I’m a bit annoyed with her at the moment)!  At least I would prefer it if somebody just gagged her and stuck her over the back of a horse and took the path that was right instead of letting a rather foolish and silly young girl lead them all into danger.  Now, everybody is probably going to beat me to a pulp now for suggesting such a thing but really, just because she’s the Mora doesn’t mean she knows what path is the safest does it.  And, if Ellion was protecting somebody else whose knickers he wasn’t trying to get into would he act differently?

3) We’ve learned a bit more about the missing Carina in this section. What do you think is in her grimoire that has Letitia so secretive?

I enjoyed reading the flashback.  I think Carina’s gotten up to something that Letitia doesn’t want anyone to find out about.  That’s why she’s so protective.  I think she was having a secret tryst with the baddie/who can change into a dragon.  He sort of sounded a bit interesting there didn’t he and there seemed to be a mixture of feelings that came across??  Perhaps she was also drawn a little to the dark side?  she certainly seemed to feel an attraction and definitely wasn’t repulsed by him.

4) We’ve heard plenty about how much Ellion’s vow not to draw power means to him. But then we also see him finding several ways to feel, tough, smell, and use someone else’s power. What do you make of this and where do you think it will take Ellion?

I just feel that this is another of those areas that you can almost see as inevitable.  He’s going to protest about using magic and his vow all the way through the book while people die needlessly and then at the end come to his senses.  Perhaps I will be wrong with this though and Letitia will become more powerful magically and he won’t have to lift a finger or break his vow.  At the moment it feels like he’s breaking his vow by stealth though.  Little by little.

5) Nechton also played a larger role in this section. Which aspect has caught your attentions so far? 

Perhaps it’s the old thing of being drawn to power but he certainly comes across as, mmm, worth reading more about’.  Okay, he’s a baddie, but sometimes they’re just more interesting!  And, don’t pretend that you don’t all think the same thing!  (Unless, of course, he turns out to be a real arse in which case I reserve the right to change my mind – after all, we’ve only had a glimpse up to this point).

6) The mummers were in and out of this section, turning up in city and on the river. What did you make of their antics?

I don’t understand why they seem to keep cropping up wherever our party are and why they’re so interested in them. They are just plain weird aren’t they.  My mum lives out in the sticks a bit and there was a tradition in that neighbourhood of mummers coming and knocking on your door, they would come into your house when you opened the door and sort of dance around a little bit just touching objects and humming -very unusual and quite frankly a bit creepy. I think that would scare the bejesus out of me if it happened.  Not to mention my dogs would be most unhappy – somebody would be getting bitten!

7) So far throughout the book we have gotten maps as we read. How is this working for you as the reader?

Not so well on the kindle to be honest.  Probably because I’m a bit more stupid than most people so I’m not really adept at flipping through the chapters to look back and forward.  This is definitely one of the upsides of paperbacks.

It might be something that I try and take a look at more when I’ve finished but it just feels too tricky at the moment and I’ll end up losing my place.

16 Responses to “Shadow of the Sun by Barbara Friend Ish, readalong week 4”

  1. barbarafriendish's avatar barbarafriendish

    Fascinating notes on the mummers here! They’re a little like clowns in the creepy area, aren’t they?

    Also, outrage noted. 🙂
    (Actually, I’m fighting the tiny little keyboard on my phone, and I fat-fingered that into “poutrage”. Which I think I’m going to keep using.)

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I’m totally stealing ‘poutrage’ that’s excellent. Another word I like to use his obsane – which is a cross between obsessed and insane – I’m always mixing up words like this. Poutrage is so fitting for me on this occasion as I was definitely pouting in my outrage! I realise I was a little harsh with our two leading characters this week but I couldn’t help it! Anyway, it’s much better to be stirred into some sort of emotion when you’re reading rather than just ‘meh’.
      The mummers are really peculiar – I’d never heard of them until they turned up at my mum’s house. I’m not going to go into great detail about them other than to say they were very odd and a bit scary.
      Lynn 😀

      • barbarafriendish's avatar barbarafriendish

        🙂 I agree! The fact that everybody got exercised over this section means the story has stirred something. The proof of the pudding will be whether readers want to continue to the next installment when this one is done. I look forward to the verdict. 🙂

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        I’m also looking forward to seeing what sort of an ending you’ve given us – not to mention I’m hoping you’ve left a few people alive – are you related to George Martin at all??
        Lynn 😀

      • barbarafriendish's avatar barbarafriendish

        LOL–but Aw. I actually have a lot of trouble with GRRM’s work as a reader. I have to go away and think about this now…

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        Hah, don’t think about it too hard – it was a bit of a throw away comment really! I suppose you’re a bit ruthless with your characters but that being said at least it keeps readers on their feet because they can’t just say ‘oh, he/she’ll be alright’. I haven’t read all the Game of Thrones books – but No.4 – (I think it was No.4) wow, everybody was dying left, right and centre – I was getting really sad. So why do you have trouble with his works??
        Lynn 😀

      • barbarafriendish's avatar barbarafriendish

        I felt abused as a reader. (I’ve only read the first, but I have begin–cautiously–catching up on the series.) I really felt that he went out of his way to make me invest my affections in characters and then turn right around and kill them, seemingly in the way troubled young boys pull the wings off flies. I’ve been told it was all in service of the story. …

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        Well, not much consolation but he doesn’t stop with pulling the wings off the flies – he pulls the legs the head and the little feeler things on top of the head right off as well! Don’t suppose that’s very encouraging and yet still I read on…
        Lynn 😀

  2. nrlymrtl's avatar nrlymrtl

    You know, the sex didn’t really bother me. Or, rather, it seemed like a natural extension. Letitia has been forced into a union due to society and honor. Iminor probably feels the same way – duty calls. He hasn’t written Letitia any love sonnets, he’s not mopping about in puppy love.

    Then there is Ellion. He spends a lot of time telling the audience he is a bad man. Well, I think we are starting to really see some of the reasons why he believes that. We have known for a while about the tragic accident. But then the meaningless duels, and then a few hints of what he did in the name of magic.

    So, yeah, in bed.

    Oh, and that story about your mum and the mummers flitting about her living room – that would not go down well here. I wonder if those mummers did as a joke, or a dare.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I know, I know, I realise I was harsh on them both. But it’s not really a bad thing – they inspired some emotional debate. Not sure I exactly agree about Iminor – I don’t think he would be constantly scowling at Ellion if he didn’t have some feelings for Letitia – I don’t think it’s reciprocal on her part though. I suppose I was just being idealistic and wish that something else could have happened but I suppose if you’re royalty in an arranged marriage you can’t just split up! I’ve got a bad feeling for Iminor – maybe the writing’s on the cards for him – that would then give Letitia the freedom to choose!
      The mummers – no I don’t think it was a dare because it happened on a yearly basis. It’s all stopped now but for a few years they were an annual occurence.
      Lynn 😀

      • nrlymrtl's avatar nrlymrtl

        Some of my favorite books elicit emotional response – like Wuthering Heights. can’t say I think any of the characters were truly good, or acted honorably all the time, but I love the emotional ruckus it gets out of me.

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        Do you know, Wuthering Heights is one of the few books that I preferred the film – and you’re right both Catherine and Heathcliff are not exactly endearing characters! I think the other thing with me is preferring some of the characters that are supporting – for example, I never liked Harry Potter or Frodo! I mean, I didn’t dislike them or anything but I wasn’t particularly reading the books just for them.
        Lynn 😀

      • nrlymrtl's avatar nrlymrtl

        Very true! Hermione and Ron are equally interesting because of their backgrounds and characters. While Frodo is our hero, he is a little drab compared to some of the more complicated characters we come across.

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        I’m a bit mean about Frodo I suppose. But he does get on my nerves a bit!
        Lynn 😀

      • nrlymrtl's avatar nrlymrtl

        Why doesn’t he cook his own food for a night? Or carry the pots? Why does Sam have to be the servant the ENTIRE trip there and back? Hmm…I can be a little harsh on Frodo too.

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        Haha, I never even thought of that – and actually he’s a bit mean on poor Sam – chooses to believe Gollum and then at the end, after all they’ve been through, and Sam carrying him up the mountain he fails at the last hurdle! Damn!!
        Lynn 😀

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