The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch readalong, week 1

For the next few weeks I will be joining a number of other people taking part in a readalong of the Lies of Locke Lamora, followed by another readalong of Red Seas Under Red Skies.  I’m so excited to be doing this because Scott Lynch’s third novel is due to be released this summer and so this acts as a perfect reminder of all that has already taken place.

I love these books!  They’re dark, gritty and brutal.  They’re populated by great and complex characters.  Definitely unflinching and not for the YA market!

If you haven’t already read these books and don’t want to read spoilers please don’t continue with the rest of this post (and, really, if you haven’t read these books what exactly are you waiting for – really, just read them).  If you want to join this readalong follow this link:
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1. If this is your first time reading The Lies of Locke Lamora, what do you think of it so far?  If this is a re-read for you, how does the book stand up to rereading?

I’ve already read the Lies of Locke Lamora but it was some time ago now and so rereading all the detail again is amazing.  I think I’m noticing so much more this time because I think the first time I read a book I read it very fast and am totally on a mission to find out what’s happening next so I don’t tend to savour the writing as much as I should.  With this reread I’m taking my time and absorbing properly all the information about the place, the food, the descriptions of the orphans and being introduced again to the Thiefmaker (who I can’t help picturing as Fagin from Oliver Twist) and Chains.

2. At last count, I found three time lines:  Locke as as a 20-something adult, Locke meeting Father Chains for the first time, and Locke as a younger child in Shades Hill. How are you doing with the Flashback within a flashback style of introducing characters and the world?

I’m really enjoying the flashbacks and the slow reveals of what actually took place with Locke that led to the Thiefmaker finally reaching the end of his tether and deciding to dispose of him.  I think the way the time lines jump back and forth make it more interesting.  One moment we’re looking at Locke and his crew and what their next job is, then just as they reach a critical point we bounce back to Locke telling his story to Chains.  One part of me is thinking what – no, I want to see what happens next, but then pretty rapidly I’m absorbed in ‘younger’ Locke’s tail and then I’m equally as eager to carry on reading that story.  I think writing like this and jumping inbetween helps to focus your attention, plus, it’s like you’re reading more than one story so it’s double or even triple the excitement.

3. Speaking of the world, what do you think of Camorr and Lynch’s world building?

At the risk of appearing to just automatically like everything that Scott Lynch does I’m going to admit that I love the world building.  What I particularly enjoy is the detail – maybe it’s not to everyone’s liking – but, I find it really easy to build up the world in my own mind’s eye.  I have my own idea of what the place actually looks like (which might not be the same as everyone else’s but that’s the beauty of reading).  I like the fact that traditions, lifestyles, even food have all been thought about.  It makes the whole reading experience rewarding.  I even have my own picture of what I think Locke looks like, the twins, Chains – I’ve got it all pictured.  Plus, I like the fact that SL has thought about it all.  He doesn’t just say ‘okay, here’s the world and this is what it’s like and expect you to be wowed – he builds it up gradually, he introduces you to the unsavoury elements and explores the underground, he gives you a bit about the history, just enough to keep you going, I can practically taste the food and the wine.  I can imaging the squalor of certain elements and the richness of others.  There are loads of layers that gradually build to give you a perfect picture.  It’s like a work of art 😀

4. Father Chains and the death offering. . .  quite the code of honor for thieves, isn’t it? What kind of person do you think Chains is going to mold Locke into?

Well, it seems a contradiction in terms, but I guess that Chains is going to mold Locke into a thief with honor!  He’s not just going to be a ‘grab and run’ or sneak in the night.  He’s going to use his cunning and intellect.  Chains is going to develop him and teach him the ways of the world so that he can blend into any setting with ease.  He’s going to help develop him to think on his feet and be quick witted.  He’s going to help him to become an actor of sorts.

5. It’s been a while since I read this, and I’d forgotten how much of the beginning of the book is pure set up, for the characters, the plot, and the world. Generally speaking, do you prefer  set up and world building done this way, or do you prefer to be thrown into the deep end with what’s happening?

I enjoy reading either way, providing the writing is good and in this case it is.  Sometimes when reading a novel I just feel like I’m suddenly reading a huge info dump, which doesn’t blend in well with the story and feels quite literally as though the author is thinking ‘okay, let’s get this over and done with’.  I don’t enjoy that and it can be distracting and take you away from the plot which is just annoying.  The start of this book helps you to see how Locke is as a boy and gives you an appreciation of how is character has come along  to reach where he is as an adult.  You can see that even at a very young age he was going to be a lot more than just a regular pickpocket – he likes to succeed and has a lot of ambition.

6. If you’ve already started attempting to pick the pockets of your family members (or even thought about it!) raise your hand.

No, I wouldn’t be any good at this as I’m a total wimp.  I think that there is a pickpocket in the making in my house however – I usually have to buy a new set of headphones every month (why?  I dunno!) plus little things have a mysterious habit of going missing – or I’m losing the plot and can’t remember where I put them.  Perhaps we have Borrowers under the floorboards – which would explain why I have 50 pairs of odd socks.

Great questions.  Loving it.

Thanks 😀

On a totally superficial note : I love this cover (I can’t help myself from just going there!)

The Lies of Locke Lamora

The Lies of Locke Lamora

29 Responses to “The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch readalong, week 1”

  1. Michael H's avatar Michael

    So far, Lynch is doing a good job of giving enough details of his world to make it interesting but not so much that it ends up being tedious. One thing that turns me off of epic fantasy (and really any genre novel) is when the author has to describe every single thing in great detail. Give me enough to have an idea and let my imagination fill in the gaps–unless knowing that the tree has 76 leaves per branch is somehow integral to the plot later in the novel! 🙂

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      Yeah, I think he’s great at layering – although come on – sometimes you just have to know that there’s 76 leaves on that branch – LOL. Are you thinking of any author in particular with the overkill on detail? (I think some people find Tolkien a bit like that – I really like Tolkien, but I just reread LOTR and I can see where people are coming from – he loves the detail!

      Lynn 😀

  2. rosesthingamajig's avatar Rose's Thingamajig

    It’s my first read-along and I find myself wishing I’d stuck a bit more to the questions sent- I skipped three of them! Lesson learned for my next post. Still, my post is pretty much a love letter to Scott Lynch anyway- I definitely have a new favourite author.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      A love letter to Scott Lynch – I’ll be there in a sec….

      I don’t think you have to stick to the questions paricularly – it’s all about generating the discussion. Can’w wait to check out your post.

      Lynn 😀

    • Redhead's avatar Redhead

      Rose, you posted a love letter to Scott Lynch. Trust me, that’s worth seventy six thousand leaves on trees/group questions answered.

      • Michelle Goldsmith's avatar Michelle Goldsmith

        I think I’m slightly in love with Scott Lynch actually. 😛

        Not only does he seem like a really nice guy, he also participates in the Read Along and can write. Really. Freaking. Well.

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        He really does seem like a nice guy. I think we’re all going to have to take a ticket and get in line – everybody seems to be falling for Mr Lynch!
        Lynn 😀

  3. Grace's avatar Grace

    I think that every washer and dryer is inhabited by a sock-eating monster. It’s to the point that I buy identical pairs of socks so that there’s some hope of finding two that match after doing laundry…

    I’m loving the book so far. I expected to enjoy it, but I didn’t expect to love it this much. Lynch does such a good job at worldbuilding, and the world that he creates isn’t just the typical fantasy medieval world. He goes above and beyond to give it his own unique twist. I’m also amused that our characters have such a strong unwritten moral code, despite the fact that they are thieves. It reminds me a lot of Robin Hood.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I also try to buy identical socks – I don’t know where all the patterned ones come from.
      Anyway, I love all the little things that this reminds me of – I get a sort of Dickensian feel for the slums/more grimy areas – not to mention the orphans and the connection with Fagin/the Thiefmaker. I think there’s this whole Robin Hood feel to the Gentlemen Bastards – they are after all gentlemen! And, I like this unwritten code that they stick to. I’m so excited to read the rest. I’m being restrained though and sticking to the schedule because even though this is a reread I have forgotten quite a bit and I want to really savour Lynch’s writing this time.
      Lynn 😀

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  5. Allie's avatar Allie

    “which would explain why I have 50 pairs of odd socks.” Last year, I was living alone, and still ended up with so many odd socks. I don’t know where they went–the only socks going into the wash were mine! Clearly Borrowers or tiny Lockes are to blame.

    I also love authors who put a lot of detail into the world-building… sometimes that can be as interesting as the plot itself, to me. I like your point in #5, too. Not incorporating information into the plot & character development can be a real turn-off in a novel.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I love the world building that Scott Lynch does – I have no problem picturing everything and I love that about his work!

      What is it with the odd socks – I think I actually turn up a few odd socks that aren’t, or weren’t ever, mine! Perhaps we all have these weird washing machines that act as strange ‘tardis’ like things for socks – so everyone’s socks are out there in the ether and you can end up with anyone’s in your wash. Thankfully this only happens with socks! LOL
      Lynn 😀

      • Michelle Goldsmith's avatar Michelle Goldsmith

        I blame my dog. He occasionally picks up a single sock and carries it around so you find it a few days later in a really bizarre place. :S

      • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

        You could have hit on something there – I have two dogs so that could be where all the socks are. Maybe they’re plumping up their beds with socks. Or making an escape rope (although not really likely as why would they need a rope?)
        Anyway!
        Lynn 😀

  6. Amy's avatar Amy

    I agree. The detail even down to the food is what is making the book, particularly the setting, come alive for me. This is my first time reading Lynch but I think he may be a new favorite.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      That is so excellent. I love finding people who enjoy the same books!

      The only problem with the detail in this book is it actually makes you want to try the food or have a glass of wine! Don’t think I’d be into their idea of entertainment though – shark baiting!

      Lynn 😀

  7. Redhead's avatar Redhead

    I love all the world building and set up. Camorr is a city I feel like I’ve been to. i feel like i’ve walked the bridges, had the ale, looked into the smelly canals, and attempted to avoid the bad areas of the town. Authors are magicians: they truly make something from nothing.

    I’m so happy everyone is enjoying this far, especially our Locke Lamora virgins.

    And Lynn, since this is a reread for you, I don’t have to tease you about what’s coming, because you already know! 😀

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I must say I’m surprised at how much I forgot. It’s brilliant getting to read this again and I wouldn’t have done so under my own steam. You’ve got a brilliant following for this one with loads of people signed up and commenting. It’s kind of refreshing reading so many people’s views on a book they’ve not read but you have – it gives it a whole new perspective and is really enjoyable.
      Can’t wait to continue – but I’m pacing myself, (plus I’m reading the Third Section in between times).
      Lynn
      Well done with this week’s questions btw. 😀

  8. Veera's avatar Booky Pony

    I think of Fagin every time the Thiefmaker is mentioned, too! Particularly the one from Cruikshank’s illustrations… with the crooked fingers, of course!

    “What I particularly enjoy is the detail” – Exactly! You also put to words what I couldn’t in number 5. 😀

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I’ll have to take a look at the Cruikshank’s illustrations – actually I have a really old set of Dickens novels all with black and white plates in there…. heading over to take a look (I’ll let you know about the illustrations).
      Thanks
      Lynn 🙂

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  10. nrlymrtl's avatar nrlymrtl

    I first borrowed LoLL from the library and it had that bland purple-on-purple skyline cover. But once delving into it I knew I needed my own copy, so I ordered one with the cover you commented on. It is a beautiful cover – plenty going on it and one I can keep going back to as I read the story.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I was actually trying to find the cover of my book to post with my comments this week but couldn’t see it. It’s the book that’s split with the purple skyline. Funnily enough I’ve never really looked at it properly before and was taking a look earlier – it’s actually a picture of Piazza San Marco in Venice – bloody well cool! I can’t believe I’d never spotted that before. I guess all the speculation about the Venice similarities have really got hold of something.
      I’m flumoxed – can’t literally believe I never noticed it.
      Lynn 😀
      I still like the other cover very much – I’m going to go and take a proper look!

  11. TBM's avatar TBM

    I was sad I couldn’t find the time for this one. The cover is pretty cool!

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      It would have been great to have read your comments on this readalong but I know what you mean about the time thing! I really do have to draw a line (some where!)

      I have so many books waiting now that it’s actually becoming a bit daunting – and the thing is there are plenty more books due out that I REALLY MUST HAVE!

      Anyway, I hope we get to chat on another readalong soon.

      Lynn 😀

  12. Lily Froggy's avatar Lily Froggy

    Can you lend me some Borrowers for my place? I’m in dire need of more socks 😀
    I wish I had time to re-read it also, I’m kinda cheating because I’m joining the read along without re-reading along (it’s still quite fresh in my memory) but with you mentioning all the benefits of a second read, I feel so tempted…

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      I am really enjoying this reread, but it has been a few years since I read it so I really did need to do so. I red the 2nd fairly recently so I might just skim bits of that – although I am enjoying it and it’s not too intensive – only 120 or so pages a week – so I’m reading other stuff in between.
      You can take all my Borrowers – I’ve had enough of them!
      Lynn:D

  13. Geeky Daddy's avatar Geeky Daddy

    I always like seeing what people think that have already read a book. It interesting to see if they missed any parts and such. I am glad that you are savoring the book this time around..:)) The cover that you have displayed is the one that I am reading right now..:) It rocks!

    I do enjoy Scott Lynch’s world building thus far into the book. He does a wonderful job keep the reading right there with Locke. You can feel what Locke is currently feeling.

    • @lynnsbooks's avatar lynnsbooks

      Hi, glad you’re taking part in this readalong. I’m really enjoying the reread. I ALWAYS miss things the first time round because I just read to fast as the sense of anticipation drives me to do so. I am taking it easy this time round though and getting new things. It’s been a few years since I read this so it’s a good refresher before the new one comes out!
      Looking forward to reading your thoughts.
      Lynn 😀

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